mamamoo problematic thread

Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. Posts: 310. However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! Mamamoo are good, genuine people. I read something the other day that said we forgive the people not the actions which I think is a accurate way of thinking. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name You need to Register or Login to view the content. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. Heres the thing- you can not forgive them. No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. Some people are a bit skeptic of whether or not I actually like Super Junior, which I can understand, but I would like to clarify that I do. They were ignorant and uneducated at the time. Goodnight. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. Mamamoo - Solar. Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. i seriously didnt mean to sound defensive?? 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. Threads: 200. As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. I heard that this picture would drive people with OCD crazy.. I will put just a fraction of some of the hate comments they receive every day down below. Thank you everybody for everything! The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. }); #1. I did watch the video when it was up but it was a while ago and I dont remember exactly what he said. Yes I should have included more context. That worried him. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. hitType: 'event', So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. The world doesnt revolve around America and our issues, not everyone has their eyes on America 24/7. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. }); hitType: 'event', Having said that it was still wrong but I don't acquite it to a minstrel show or it have been in a mock manner and I am glad that they apologised and have learnt from that. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) My first mistake was actually assuming that the video at the source was still there (because it had been last time I checked) and so I thought people would automatically know that he said it a long time ago judging by the video itself. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. I'm sure I'm still unlearning a lot of things today. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. Coming in at last place is the debut single of NMIXX, O.O.This song now also holds the distinction of having the lowest average in the history of KSOTY. i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. omg?? Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. Refresh the page,. let gads_event; Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? What are your thoughts? pg.acq.push(function() { When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. MAMAMOOWA Entertainment2015 Rainbow Bridge World (RBW)MAMAMOOMAMAMOO . Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. 1,068. But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . Threads: 0. hitType: 'event', That obviously didnt work too well. Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. Why? It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. There are so many kids in the . But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. The sun will always shine for us. If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! where henry addressed the gay thing (the trans thing wasnt included) and he doesnt seem to have said anything about it worrying him! }); ga('ads.send', { They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. **All colorism is bad, but i think its fair to say that whenever Tao or Kai try to deflect colorist comments onto each other, it is usually a form of defence mechanism that stems from internalised colorism. ; _____; aaaa. Group. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. In this video, they wore blackface. Feb 22, 2023. Another misconception I found was about Hwasa and how shes the devil and sooo racist. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy kpop stans w/o any recipts https://t.co/rBMH79ZvlD, HELP i dont like hwasa but some of yall going a little to far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too ngl i let out a couples laughs tho#AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/GbxXzX6Fna. it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. Mamamoo isn't problematic. Yet she's okay with that. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. 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