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FuN~?n-23*j "width": 200, Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. "height": 57 Because I could not find OSPHO at the store but I found JASCO. will it hold up? Display as a link instead, Yes you are supposed to spray, allow to dry, then paint (prime). None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. ", I use it full strength. Location: Currently trapped in California. I use air or a tack cloth. Some epoxys don't like acid treatmentcheck with manufacturer. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. 0000001069 00000 n 0000000016 00000 n My first being OSPHO. The pieces stayed pristine in my basement for a little over a year. 0000009944 00000 n Never used it but is it similar to rustmort? If it is the main incrediant, you have what you need, ospho is nothing special. "@type": "ImageObject", I removed all the rust i could with a wire wheel then applied jasco metal-prep. Cookie Policy - You actually want to leave as much as you can and still have the paint stick. }, I have been blasting & sanding my fenders, grille, etc down to bare metal. "@type": "Organization", Ospho or naval jelly (anything with phosphoric acid) will all do pretty much the same things. I used muriatic acid to attack the rust pin holes, neutralized with a plain water rinse, dried with compressed air, then sprayed with ospho, and wiped dry. Disclaimer: The ideas and methods described in this web site were developed under unique situations. Advertising - I am assuming your talking about the rust treatment in OSPHO, I couldn't find Jasco Rust treatment. 0000001399 00000 n whats the best way to fix quarter panel rust on an R? You gotta get all that rust outphosphoric acid will help if scrubed good and rinsed while wet. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. I'm using this stuff according to the instructions but it seems to form a flash of surface rust by the time the metal dries. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. From what I had read, when it came time to prime,the process would be to wash it all of with a grease and oil remover, dry the metal, wipe it all down with denatured alcohol and it would be ready to prime. }, Welcome to BinderPlanet.com the World's Premier IH Website. Privacy Statement - But only time will tell in the long run. trailer Terms of Service - Since I have started the process, I have found threads that tell me painting over what I have done will work fine, it will all fail miserably, or it will fail around corners and seams. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. "userInteractionCount": 4 Copyright 1996-2022 IndiaMART InterMESH Ltd. All rights reserved. best way to remove small scratches and dents. Thanks, RDAllison Im not familiar with Jasco, but the key is phosphoric acid. 0000006180 00000 n Paste as plain text instead, Check out our lines of solvents, thinners, removers and paint prep for your next project. 0000009846 00000 n I have been using the JASCO stuff with great results. Your link has been automatically embedded. "headline":"JASCO And OSPHO", Pelican Parts Catalog for Porsche, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, MINI and More. "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=602124", Im not familiar with Jasco, but the key is phosphoric acid. I stripped fenders, hood, trunk lid and several smaller parts on my car. Register a free account today to become a member! Thanks, RDAllison I was told to give my gas tank a OSPHO treatment but Lowes did not have the OSPHO but they had JASCO prep & Primmer. EPA put a stop to their business years ago. So I bought some because the first ingredient was phosphoric acid and I was told that the OSPHO was a phosphoric acid conversion. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Please use the navigational links to explore our website. "image": { Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} gtag('js', new Date()); gtag('config', 'G-04SJ2KTSCK',{ cookie_flags: 'max-age=7200;secure;samesite=none' }); Welcome! xref } My main concern is the rust coming back after a lot of money being spent on this. xb```"V|~7GH>,"*wDy~gz2Wb4n Q`#1LFA Lg (fa\FAZan^LT8yny0> P %76 Thanks, RDAllison I have been using the JASCO stuff with great results. I use it full strength. It reacts the same way as the prep and prime (nearly identical chemicals) and leaves the white "powder". 35 0 obj<>stream "description":"Discussion of JASCO And OSPHO in the Ford 9N, 2N & 8N forum followed by comments. "@type": "InteractionCounter", 0000003474 00000 n Hope that helps. These name brands can get pricy, look for phosphoric acid it is cheap. "mainEntityOfPage": { 33 0 obj<> endobj You must log in or register to reply here. It looks, smells, and acts just like the spensive stuff from PPG I have been using the JASCO stuff with great results. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Taking the panel down to metal and sealing it with an Epoxy primer is more common. Jasco Chemicals - Wholesaler of phosphoric acid & other products in Navsari, Gujarat. } The best way to remove rust (surface rust) is to sand it COMPLETELY away and coat the metal IMMEDIATELY with true automotive paint. When the areas that needed filler were done, the whole piece was scuffed, tacked and primed. }. Jasco's "Prep and Prime" is the closest you can get anywhere besides a marine supply store. "name": "Rdallison" It looks, smells, and acts just like the spensive stuff from PPG I looked up both on the internet. No problems after 12 years. P.S. Phosphoric Acid rust convertor like so many other brands.plenty of youtube vids to study up on if you haven'tdone it before. These name brands can get pricy, look for phosphoric acid it is cheap. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", What's the best way to remove racer tape residue. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. :\%&y8aGnLbdJ^N'V=dX{h;q8v8(FG[d M~lEdr@w\X?~_RiSz8JkA[G$xU0uP:Ar,$u#M=Qf,|U_Lu*Q#:.RUNBToNO !J{,\8Chz xnHKL4}eBC]a>-KlCG2CNoYSv* instruction on use.. These cookies do not store any personal information. I was told to give my gas tank a OSPHO treatment but Lowes did not have the OSPHO but they had JASCO prep & Primmer. "@type": "ImageObject", I looked up both on the internet. Paint is bonding well. I am assuming your talking about the rust treatment in OSPHO, I couldn't find Jasco Rust treatment. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. need advice on how to remove rust inside pipes. section 4 of the directions on the bottle. Pasted as rich text. d!:N=dq -qFtS24NfI6ZwRyU(D{vuM[ck{.k*m:UJc[[6!4bn-bW#:W(W,i2lV4% ?1ft7.?:H7-\*{!>Lpyar|Q&50%F.Uyx|i>7|ao7& WU] Mdv>->Gh:-eU3{EHH]F~s&9d>:xwgOqPz[WJx/2d:mtpY~ol&3XxHq>/4Av@Vd{S6?t0Z6ns\o "datePublished": "2007-04-20", I was told to give my gas tank a OSPHO treatment but Lowes did not have the OSPHO but they had JASCO prep & Primmer. Not sure who makes it. Powered by Invision Community. Use and application of any of the site's content is at the user's own risk. "interactionType": "https://schema.org/CommentAction", You cannot paste images directly. These name brands can get pricy, look for phosphoric acid it is cheap. The zinc and phosphate leave a coating that keeps the flash away and helps protects against future rust. I use it full strength. I used it a couple of weeks ago and fallowed the instructions. 0000000756 00000 n "author": { Back in the days I first got my truck (used as an old roofing truck) there was a place in Santa Fe Springs that dipped my entire cab and front clip into an acid bath (which was subsequently nutralized) It was rediculously inexpensive like $160 for my entire truck which was returned to me as shiny metal. Anyone have experience with this to share? %%EOF So I bought some because the first ingredient was phosphoric acid and I was told that the OSPHO was a phosphoric acid conversion. VerifiedSupplier, Jasco ChemicalsHouse No 144 Avadh Kingsbury, Eroo, Jalalpore, Navsari-396450, Gujarat, India, Tell us what you need, and well help you get quotes. "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", p15-d24.com/pilot-house.com Copyright 2022-1998. 0000002704 00000 n Maybe if you can clarify what products your talking about we might be able to give a little more info. To say one is better than the other is something I will not get into..but most products do have a label and adherence to those instructions usually do eliminate frustrations in the end.. The high content of resins (sticky) keeps moisture out and rust from reforming. 0000003550 00000 n "height": 57 "width": 200, I know my shop used a self etching primer that I think had phosphoric acid or something like that if I remember correctly. Lacquer Thinner for California South Coast, Premium Paint & Epoxy Remover Aerosol California, Please read our privacy and cookie policy. { By When I was a commercial fisherman, we fought rust constantly. 0000003002 00000 n 0000003247 00000 n 0000000989 00000 n No it is not at all like Rustmort. The acid in Etching Primers can be problematic for a lot of today's paint systems. endstream endobj 34 0 obj<> endobj 36 0 obj<> endobj 37 0 obj<>/Font<>/XObject<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC/ImageI]/ExtGState<>>> endobj 38 0 obj<> endobj 39 0 obj<> endobj 40 0 obj<> endobj 41 0 obj[/ICCBased 51 0 R] endobj 42 0 obj[/Indexed 41 0 R 15 52 0 R] endobj 43 0 obj<> endobj 44 0 obj<> endobj 45 0 obj<> endobj 46 0 obj<> endobj 47 0 obj<>stream They have nothing to do with killing or treating rust. "interactionStatistic": { Upload or insert images from URL. 0000007177 00000 n While the ospho treatments work (kindof), it is possible (and fairly likely) for them to convert/eat away only the rust at the tip and allow rust to harbor underneath to show its ugly head later on. If it is the main incrediant, you have what you need, ospho is nothing special. Im not familiar with Jasco, but the key is phosphoric acid. Hope that helps. It was way cool driving my Raw Shiney Metal Cab back home that day. 0000006345 00000 n Any comments or advice, what's the best to use. No matter the acid you use to stop or check micro rust in pits..once the action of the acid has done its job, removal of excess is bestwashing and drying will however more than not result in some flash rust coming back on your substrate..this is just normal but you can use a light 10-20% mix of phosphoric to do a light wipe of the surface and remove all flash rust..very light application is the keyallow to air dry very completely and leave alone till you are ready to prime.. It looks, smells, and acts just like the spensive stuff from PPG. I have always hated putting water on fresh metal tho'. So, have I screwed my project, or is it really just wash it off as described above and don't use an epoxy primer that says it is not compatible with phosphoric acid treatment on the metal? Jasco Products are formulated to help your projects look great! JavaScript is disabled. check out the. I was half expecting the demo guy (working without a respirator) to pass out and be laying on his garage floor overcome by phosphoric acid fumes during the video. I'm starting on my build this month, some minor dings an surfast rust. It may not display this or other websites correctly. BK}GbW{"&F x'z;F]V=AfRz1@{r[^c endstream endobj 24 0 obj 458 endobj 25 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 24 0 R >> stream p15-d24.com/pilot-house.com Copyright 2022-1998 The following errors occurred with your submission. Valve cover w/ House of Kolor metallic auto paint? i used a similar product can't remember if it was jesco or not but i left the residue on their and it did cause problems with the primer but it just required a little more sanding i would get rid of any heavy build up, lightly sand off or something. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. 0000002236 00000 n You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. %PDF-1.4 % I am assuming your talking about the rust treatment in OSPHO, I couldn't find Jasco Rust treatment. If it is the main incrediant, you have what you need, ospho is nothing special. <<369bf44958fed5458ffdbe0c32e9623a>]>> I was wondering if anyone had tried jasco rust converter or osphol metal treatment? Bobacuda, July 23, 2014 in Mopar Flathead Truck Forum. Archive - TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. So I bought some because the first ingredient was phosphoric acid and I was told that the OSPHO was a phosphoric acid conversion. "@type": "WebPage", Your previous content has been restored. hXlE|3h'-@C?[,q_W^. 33 23 | "publisher": { Once again, the more I read on bodywork, the more confused I get. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Is it just me or am I doing something wrong here? }, "text": "Are JASCO and OSPHO pretty much the same thing? "dateModified": "2007-04-20", I have one of these and it KICKS butt being able to sand blast little places without sand going all over. You need a phosphoric acid that also has zinc and phosphate. This is my second favorite brand of rust killer. I have seen where folks use chemical strippers or allow acid to penetrate inside door panels etc and dry in a heavy concentration only to have their paint job fully destroyed once the car is painted and the car gets wet from rain or a subsequent wash job.do watch how and where you apply these products is best I can tell you along with following mfg. I normally will later when ready toprime the completely dry panel go over it with a3M scruffy pad and wipe all residue from the panel with a good solvent..also allow this solvent to completely dryfor if any solvent is left is some small depression or rustpock, it will usually prevent the primer from getting a good bond to theconverted substrate surface..unlike new cars and fast turn around body shops..we often dealing with panels that have some light form of corrosion on the panels in many placesyou cannot get in a hurry here..do allow your products the time allowed for working. I have found that you need to remove any of the loose stuff so that the paint will stick. I looked up both on the internet. IIRC OSPHO (but maybe Jasco) reccomends that you rinse with water to remove the loose stuff. The only product that actually worked was OSPHO. 0000002781 00000 n For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Maybe if you can clarify what products your talking about we might be able to give a little more info. Since I plan on painting pretty much all at the same time (when it is cooler than 95-100 degrees F), I have been painting JASCO Prep & Prime on the bare metal and wipingdown the excess. Since these situations cannot be duplicated, you may get different results. I would have a hard time not buying a little spot blaster and cleaning that rust out. If you leave this stuff in areas in heavy film albeit dry..it is not goodI have Jasco here as an experimental and found it not up to par for my outer panels and so will stick with my phosphoric acid in 55% or less as cut by water for my particular need. Jasco prep and prime is a Phosphoric Acid rust convertor like so many other brands.plenty of youtube vids to study up on if you haven'tdone it before. On the boats we typically used an epoxy paint and never bothered to blow it off. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! 0000002738 00000 n You can post now and register later. Its merely an old school way of sealingbare metal until you have time to work on it again. Saved a whole lot of hard work removing coat after coat of paint that had been applied by the P.O. Maybe if you can clarify what products your talking about we might be able to give a little more info. 7 YI)30qO>]g S){?:mN[68Ct>G&ObIq3=f8w(w{(ZpE/Yk@>36X{zwy2"m\: |c -@&,p55xh`qThp^-u+({>mAdu79&Dk Clear editor. many have their favorite rust inhibitors, primers and topcoatsit is all according to what they are accustomed or have found to work best for their body repair techniques and methods and environmental concerns. "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" You are using an out of date browser. 0000010698 00000 n 0 If anyone had used these please let me know how good it works. 0000006938 00000 n About Us - It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. rust help, anyone tried osphol metal treatment, or jasco rust converter? "@type": "Person", who makes it? Etching primers areacid based primers..that's where the term"etching" comes from. Contact Us - 0000001882 00000 n 0000001198 00000 n These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Honda and Acura Model-Specific Technical Forums, Honda and Acura Appearance / Cosmetic Forums. "logo": { 0000010461 00000 n